Wednesday, February 4, 2015

Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Higgs Boson Blues (Lyric Video) & Red Right Hand





Red

Right

Hand



 

Take a litle walk to the edge of town

Go across the tracks

Where the viaduct looms,

like a bird of doom

As it shifts and cracks

Where secrets lie in the border fires,

in the humming wires

Hey man, you know

you're never coming back

Past the square, past the bridge,

past the mills, past the stacks

On a gathering storm comes

a tall handsome man

In a dusty black coat with

a red right hand

He'll wrap you in his arms,

tell you that you've been a good boy

He'll rekindle all the dreams

it took you a lifetime to destroy

He'll reach deep into the hole,

heal your shrinking soul

Hey buddy, you know you're

never ever coming back

He's a god, he's a man,

he's a ghost, he's a guru

They're whispering his name

through this disappearing land

But hidden in his coat

is a red right hand

You ain't got no money?

He'll get you some

You ain't got no car? He'll get you one

You ain't got no self-respect,

you feel like an insect

Well don't you worry buddy,

cause here he comes

Through the ghettos and the barrio

and the bowery and the slum

A shadow is cast wherever he stands

Stacks of green paper in his

red right hand

(Organ solo)

You'll see him in your nightmares,

you'll see him in your dreams

He'll appear out of nowhere but

he ain't what he seems

You'll see him in your head,

on the TV screen

And hey buddy, I'm warning

you to turn it off

He's a ghost, he's a god,

he's a man, he's a guru

You're one microscopic cog

in his catastrophic plan

Designed and directed by

his red right hand.

Tuesday, January 20, 2015

The classic 60s song of the "Supremes" "I hear a Symphony" "The 5th Galaxy Orchestra" featuring the amazing vocals of Dianna Ross from the original recording..

Published on Jun 20, 2013
The classic 60s song of the "Supremes" "I hear a Symphony" totally reconstructed from
the electronica-lounge band "The 5th Galaxy Orchestra" featuring the amazing vocals of
Dianna Ross from the original recording..




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Monday, January 19, 2015

The Large Hadron Collider is being prepared for its second three-year run March 2015



 The Large Hadron Collider is being prepared for its second three-year run (Image: CERN)
The Large Hadron Collider (LHC), the largest and most powerful particle accelerator in the world, has started to get ready for its second three-year run. Cool down of the vast machine has already begun in preparation for research to resume early in 2015 following a long technical stop to prepare the machine for running at almost double the energy of run 1. The last LHC magnet interconnection was closed on 18 June 2014 and one sector of 1/8 of the machine has already been cooled to operating temperature. The accelerator chain that supplies the LHC’s particle beams is currently starting up, with beam in the Proton Synchrotron accelerator last Wednesday for the first time since 2012.
"There is a new buzz about the laboratory and a real sense of anticipation," says CERN Director General Rolf Heuer, speaking at a press conference at the EuroScience Open Forum (link is external) (ESOF) meeting in Copenhagen. "Much work has been carried out on the LHC over the last 18 months or so, and it’s effectively a new machine, poised to set us on the path to new discoveries."
Over the last 16 months, the LHC has been through a major programme of maintenance and upgrading, along with the rest of CERN’s accelerator complex, some elements of which have been in operation since 1959. Some 10,000 superconducting magnet interconnections were consolidated in order to prepare the LHC machine for running at its design energy.
"The machine is coming out of a long sleep after undergoing an important surgical operation," says Frédérick Bordry, CERN’s Director for Accelerators and Technology. "We are now going to wake it up very carefully and go through many tests before colliding beams again early next year. The objective for 2015 is to run the physics programme at 13 TeV."
The LHC experiments also took advantage of this long pause to upgrade their particle detectors. "The discovery of a Higgs boson was just the beginning of the LHC’s journey," said senior CERN physicist Fabiola Gianotti at the same press conference. "The increase in energy opens the door to a whole new discovery potential."
The Higgs boson, first mentioned in a 1964 paper by Peter Higgs, is linked to the mechanism, proposed the same year by Higgs and independently by Robert Brout and François Englert, that gives mass to fundamental particles. During its first three years, the LHC ran at a collision energy of 7 to 8 TeV delivering particle collisions to four major experiments: ATLAS, CMS, ALICE and LHCb. With the large amount of data provided by the LHC during this first period, the ATLAS and CMS experiments were able to announce the discovery of the long-sought Higgs boson on 4 July 2012, paving the way for the award of the 2013 Nobel Prize in physics to theorists François Englert and Peter Higgs.
By providing collisions at energies never reached in a particle accelerator before, the LHC will open a new window for potential discovery, allowing further studies on the Higgs boson and potentially addressing unsolved mysteries such as dark matter. The ordinary matter of which we, and everything visible in the universe is composed, makes up just 5% of what the universe is made of. The remainder is dark matter and energy, so the stakes for LHC run 2 are high.

CERN’s accelerator complex: Restart schedule

2 June 2014 Restart of the Proton Synchrotron Booster
18 June 2014 Restart of the Proton Synchrotron (PS)
Early July Powering tests at the Super Proton Synchrotron (SPS)
Mid-July Physics programme to restart at the ISOLDE facility and at the PS
Mid-August Antimatter Physics programme to restart at the Antiproton Decelerator
Mid-October Physics programme to restart at the SPS
Early 2015 Beam back into the Large Hadron Collider (LHC)
Spring 2015 Physics programme to restart at the LHC experiments






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Sunday, April 1, 2012

Update on; A nuclear scientist at the Cern laboratory has gone on trial in France accused of plotting terrorist attacks.



Cern Project Update:

October 10,2009
Al Qaeda suspect worked at Swiss nuclear lab



French authorities have arrested an engineer working at an international nuclear research laboratory on suspicion of having links with the

Al Qaeda militant network.

Officials connected with the case say the Algerian man worked at the

CERN nuclear laboratory on the border with Switzerland.

Police arrested the man and his brother after following internet exchanges between the two and other people believed to have links to extremist groups.

Computers, USB drives and hard drives were removed from the brothers' home.

It is believed the older man was planning attacks in France.

According to the Figaro newspaper, the arrests could represent an important step in the hunt for Al Qaeda networks.

- BBC







October 10,2009
Al Qaeda suspect worked at Swiss nuclear lab



French authorities have arrested an engineer working at an international nuclear research laboratory on suspicion of having links with the

Al Qaeda militant network.

Officials connected with the case say the Algerian man worked at the

CERN nuclear laboratory on the border with Switzerland.

Police arrested the man and his brother after following internet exchanges between the two and other people believed to have links to extremist groups.

Computers, USB drives and hard drives were removed from the brothers' home.

It is believed the older man was planning attacks in France.

According to the Figaro newspaper, the arrests could represent an important step in the hunt for Al Qaeda networks.

- BBC


(03-29) 03:52 PDT PARIS, France (AP) --By JAMEY KEATEN and INGRID ROUSSEAU, Associated Press

Thursday, March 29, 2012



http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2012/03/29/international/i021525D28.DTL#ixzz1qoBjxioI

For Adlene Hicheur, France's biggest terror attacks in years could not have come at a worse time.

For 2-1/2 years, the former nuclear physicist at Europe's most prestigious particle accelerator has been in prison awaiting trial on charges of plotting terrorism with Al-Qaida's north African wing — claims his lawyers and allies deny vigorously.

Just a few weeks before the Thursday start of the trial, in an apparently unrelated case in southern France, another young man of Algerian descent, Mohamed Merah, was carrying out a spate of shooting attacks.

Merah told police he filmed himself killing three Jewish schoolchildren, a rabbi and three paratroopers — and claimed affiliation with al-Qaida. He was killed in a shootout with police, but his rampage has shaken the French national psyche.

It is in this national context, with the Merah case eclipsing even France's presidential election race, that Hicheur finally goes on trial in a Paris court.

The cases of Hicheur, 35, and Merah, 23, are not the same. Hicheur never took a single step toward carrying out a terrorist act, he just spouted off online, his lawyers insist.

But any French person — including the judges who will be ruling on the Hicheur case — would need to have been living under a rock over the last week to miss out on new concerns about the threat of terrorism in France today.

"Clearly, the events of Toulouse and Montauban don't appear to create the most favorable conditions for the trial of Adlene Hicheur," said Hicheur lawyer Patrick Baudouin, referring to the two southern municipalities in which Merah carried out his slayings.

"We're really going to have to insist that there's no conflation," he told The Associated Press this week.

The Merah case has stirred up such a national fervor that re-election-minded President Nicolas Sarkozy has floated a proposal to make it a crime to repeatedly visit jihadist Web sites — in part because French counterrorism officials fear such "lone wolf" attacks by militants who self-radicalize online.

And Hicheur's case is all about the Internet.

A nuclear physicist at Switzerland's celebrated CERN laboratory, while laid up with a herniated disk in 2009, Hicheur railed in various e-mails about the need to punish Western governments for the allegedly anti-Muslim wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, according to an order sending the case to trial.

He is accused of conferring with an alleged al-Qaida contact about possible assassination or bombing plots, but his defenders say it was all talk, no action. Hicheur faces charges of "criminal association with a view to plotting terrorist attacks."

His advocates allege the Algerian-born scientist fits French authorities'"profile" for the homegrown terrorist they most worry about: Muslim, young, angry at the West; well-educated, Internet-savvy, and self-radicalized.

Hicheur is very well-educated, integrated into French society and never took any steps to gather weapons, his supporters say. But the threat that he posed seemed even more potent because of his access to a potential security hazard — the CERN lab. He had no police record.

Merah, by contrast, struggled in school, ran with a ultraconservative Muslim crowd, and amassed a small arsenal. He claimed he stole to drum up money to buy weapons.

Hicheur was arrested in a pre-dawn raid on Oct. 8, 2009, at his parents' home in southeastern France, hours before he was to take a flight to Algeria to work on a real estate purchase, Baudouin said.

Baudouin said French investigators pored over about 35 emails between Hicheur and an alleged Al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb contact. Some cited possible targets, including a French military barracks in the Alps.

Investigators say Hicheur, under police questioning, admitted that he believed a contact he had in the email correspondence — a man in Algeria named Mustapha Debchi — was part of AQIM. A police search of Hicheur's computer also turned up a file folder titled "tempo AQMI" — for the group's French language acronym.

Debchi allegedly sought to persuade Hicheur to carry out a suicide bombing — which he refused, responding that it was against Islam, and that he had no intention of dying prematurely, the court documents showed.

CERN says it adheres to the principle of innocence until guilt is proven and looks forward to Hicheur receiving a fair trail, CERN spokesman James Gillies said Wednesday.

Hicheur was on contract with CERN from the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Lausanne. A postdoctoral researcher, his contract with CERN expired at the end of March 2010, a few months after his arrest, according to institute spokesman Michael David Mitchell.

Hicheur is the only person to face trial in the case.

"I hope today that we'll have a trial that separates the context of the killings in Toulouse and Montauban, (and) that the case of Adlene Hicheur is judged individually," the lawyer said.

"Hicheur mustn't be a scapegoat for a case he has nothing to do with."

___

John Heilprin in Geneva contributed to this report.



Read more:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2012/03/29/international/i021525D28.DTL#ixzz1qoAkOCMs
Update March 29th 2012 By Associated Press, Published: March 30

PARIS — A French state prosecutor on Friday asked a Paris court to sentence an Algerian-born nuclear physicist to six years in prison for his suspected role in plotting terrorism with al-Qaida’s north African wing.

The request came at the end of the two-day trial of Adlene Hicheur, a former researcher at Switzerland’s CERN laboratory for alleged “criminal association with a view to plotting terrorist attacks.”



The three-judge panel has recessed for deliberations before handing down its verdict on May 4. Hicheur, who has been behind bars since he was arrested in October 2009, risks a maximum 10 years in prison.

The 35-year-old scientist and his defenders say he was a victim of allegedly overzealous French anti-terrorism laws and that he explored ideas on jihadist websites — but never took any concrete step toward terrorism.

The case centers on about 35 emails between Hicheur and an alleged contact with Al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb named Mustapha Debchi, who tried to convince him to carry out a suicide bombing. Hicheur declined, but in one response suggested striking at the barracks of a battalion of elite Alpine troops in the eastern town Cran-Gevrier.

Hicheur claimed he was on morphine for a herniated disk and going through a personal “zone of turbulence” when he wrote an 2009 email that advocated an attack on the barracks.

Prosecutor Guillaume Portenseigne rejected Hicheur’s claims of a lack of lucidity and characterized the defendant as “a man who had everything going for him ... but just got led astray in a radical jihadist Islam.”

“Adlene Hicheur was a budding terrorist: He only needed that determining meeting to slip” into concrete action, the prosecutor told the court.

Defense lawyer Patrick Baudouin said a conviction would be “an error” and that “From the beginning, everything has been done to demonize him, to make him into ... France’s most dangerous terrorist, potentially susceptible to participate in a bombing.”

That, he argued, “would place on his shoulders something that he is incapable of doing — fortunately.”

Hicheur’s defenders say the context of the trial makes their case difficult because of recent terror attacks in France. Earlier this month, in an apparently unrelated case, police say another young man of Algerian descent killed three Jewish schoolchildren, a rabbi and three paratroopers in the cities of Toulouse and Montauban and claimed ties to al-Qaida. Mohamed Merah, 23, died later in a shootout with police.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/6-year-prison-term-sought-in-french-
trial-of-ex-cern-physicist-accused-of-terror-plot/2012/03/30/gIQAPMerlS_story.html






http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17554653


French Cern scientist goes on trial for 'al-Qaeda plot'

Emails sent by Adlene Hicheur apparently discussed targets

A nuclear scientist at the Cern laboratory has gone on trial in France accused of plotting terrorist attacks.

Adlene Hicheur has been in custody since his arrest two-and-a-half years ago, after police intercepted his emails to an alleged contact in Al-Qaeda.

Court documents say the emails proposed targets and suggested Mr Hicheur was willing to be part of an active unit.

His lawyers say he only expressed views online and he was never part of a plot.

The French domestic intelligence service, DCRI, looked at 35 emails sent between Hicheur and an alleged contact in al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM).

He had been under surveillance for 18 months as investigators monitored the account of Algerian Mustapha Debchi, alleged to be a member of AQIM.

Investigators say the emails, in which the men use pseudonyms, discuss possible "military and political targets to punish governments" in Europe and in particular France.

But Mr Hicheur, who was born in Algeria, never said he would actually carry out an attack.

Shadow of Merah shootings

Adlene Hicheur's family have complained his emails were "misinterpreted"
They were sent while Mr Hicheur was at home from his work at the Cern particle accelerator, suffering from a herniated disc. During this illness he is said to have consulted numerous Islamist websites.

His supporters say he was only expressing strong views and was not planning attacks.

At the start of the trial Mr Hicheur criticised the case against him. "I see a lot of confusion and inaccuracies," Agence France-Presse reported.

"It would be too tedious to revisit each of them (but) the assertions about me... are inaccurate, are subject to debate."

His brother, Halim, complained that the emails had been interpreted in a "biased way".

"This dossier was tampered with from the beginning by the DCRI. Some people wanted to raise the spectre of the terrorism threat by the Algerian, Muslim nuclear physicist, etc."

The trial comes a week after French special forces shot dead Mohamed Merah, who killed seven people in Toulouse and Montauban.

Security issues have since dominated the French presidential election campaign, with President Nicolas Sarkozy proposing that anyone regularly visiting extremist websites should be prosecuted. The first round of voting takes place next month.

"The events of Toulouse and Montauban don't appear to create the most favourable conditions for the trial of Adlene Hicheur," said his lawyer Patrick Baudouin.

"We're really going to have to insist that there's no conflation."

Mr Baudouin told journalists that unlike Merah his client had no weapons in his possession, and no history of violence.

Friday, April 30, 2010

Clones a "Gallery of Horrors"



Clonaid Claims birth of "first human clone








Human Baby Clone Dr. Panayiotis Zavos



Physicians from the American Medical Association and scientists with the American
Association for the Advancement of Science have issued formal public statements
advising against human reproductive cloning. Currently, the U.S. Congress is
considering the passage of legislation that could ban human cloning. See the Policy and Legislation click links. Due to the inefficiency of animal cloning (only about 1 or 2 viable offspring
for every 100 experiments) and the lack of understanding about reproductive
cloning, many scientists and physicians strongly believe that it would
be unethical to attempt to clone humans. Not only do most attempts to
clone mammals fail, about 30% of clones born alive are affected with "large
offspring syndrome" and other debilitating conditions. Several cloned
animals have died prematurely from infections and other complications.
The same problems would be expected in human cloning. In addition, scientists
do not know how cloning could impact mental development. While factors
such as intellect and mood may not be as important for a cow or a mouse,
they are crucial for the development of healthy humans. With so many unknowns
concerning reproductive cloning, the attempt to clone humans at this time
is considered potentially dangerous and ethically irresponsible.






See the Cloning Ethics links for more information
about the human cloning debate.@



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Cloned Monkey Embryos Are a "Gallery of Horrors"@




FDA OKs meat, milk from most cloned animals


ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- Food from healthy clones of cattle, swine and goats is as safe as food from non-cloned animals, the Food and Drug Administration said in a report released Tuesday.Extensive evaluation of the available data has not identified any subtle hazards that might indicate food-consumption risks in healthy clones of cattle, swine, or goats," the 968-page "final risk assessment" concluded.

"Thus, edible products from healthy clones that meet existing requirements for meat and milk in commerce pose no increased food consumption risk(s) relative to comparable products from sexually-derived animals."

But the FDA said it needs more information to determine the safety of meat and milk from cloned sheep. The FDA also concluded that food from newborn cattle clones "may pose some very limited human food consumption risk."

The purpose of using cloned animals is to improve the overall value of a given herd by creating genetic copies of donor animals, resulting in a herd that produces higher-quality milk and meat.

For years, heated debate over the use of cloned animals for food production has stretched from Congress to cattle farms and dinner tables nationwide. Dr. Stephen Sundlof, director of the agency's Center of Food Safety and Applied Nutrition, acknowledged the controversy to reporters.

About half of the more than 30,500 comments from the public the FDA has received about the matter have dealt with labeling, he said.

But, he added, agency regulators cannot require cloned products be labeled as such if -- as they assert -- there is no material difference between them and food produced by conventional methods.

"There's really nothing for us to label," he said.

Consumers won't be able to figure it out for themselves, he said. No test exists that could distinguish meat from a cloned animal from other meat.

Either way, food products from cloned animals or their offspring would not reach store shelves for years, experts said.

But companies could label their clone-free products as such, Sundlof said. In addition, foods labeled "organic" would not contain cloned products. Tuesday's announcement followed the agency's December 2006 preliminary conclusion, reached after a four-year review, that milk and meat from cloned animals are safe for human consumption.

The agency was then to collect more safety data before issuing a final decision.

Last month, the Senate passed a measure intended to bar the FDA from approving the products until further study was conducted. The legislation, part of the Senate's $286 billion farm bill, also required the Agriculture Department to examine consumer acceptance of cloned meats.

On Tuesday, opponents of using cloned animals in food production expressed anger at the move.

"The FDA has acted recklessly and I am profoundly disappointed in their rush to approve cloned foods," Sen. Barbara Mikulski, D-Maryland, said in a written statement.

"Just because something was created in a lab doesn't mean we should have to eat it. If we discover a problem with cloned food after it is in our food supply and it's not labeled, the FDA won't be able to recall it like they did Vioxx -- the food will already be tainted."

Vioxx, a painkiller, was withdrawn from the market in 2004 after it was linked to a heightened risk of heart attack and stroke.

"We think the FDA should pay attention to what Congress is asking them to do," said J.D. Hanson, policy analyst for the Center for Food Safety. "It looks like they are releasing it to sidestep what Congress has asked them to do."

The National Farmers Union, in a written statement, said "consumers have the right to know if the food they feed their families comes from a cloned animal."

Another concern is possible economic fallout. "People will start consuming less dairy and meat" if they are not sure of the products' safety, predicted Michael Hansen, a senior scientist with Consumers Union. His group calls for more study and clear labeling.

Perhaps in an effort to placate critics, Tuesday's report included hundreds of pages of raw data in the risk assessment.

Some consumer groups said they were pleased with the report. "There are still unanswered questions about the use of cloned animals in the food supply, but the Food and Drug Administration has satisfactorily answered the safety question," the Center for Science in the Public Interest said in a written statement. "While the safety of any food cannot be proven with absolute certainty, consumers should have confidence that meat and milk from cloned animals and their offspring will be safe."

Experts say it is unlikely actual clones would be used in food production. A cloned cow costs $15,000 to $20,000 to create. More likely, experts said, the offspring of cloned animals would be used.

Bruce Knight, the U.S. Department of Agriculture's undersecretary for marketing and regulatory programs, said only about 600 cloned animals exist in the United States, about 570 of which are cattle. He said the agency is urging providers to extend a voluntary moratorium on the use of the meat or milk from cloned animals during the transition, a period he would not specify.

Mark Walton, president of ViaGen, which uses cloning technologies, said his company will comply with the request, but he played down the scope of the matter. "The number of cloned animals in the barn yard today is minuscule compared to the size of the total livestock population," said Walton. "In addition, clones are to be used as breeding animals, not for consumption. Because of a supply chain management system that allows tracking of cloned livestock, consumers are unlikely to ever eat these animals." A spokeswoman for the National Cattlemen's Beef Association, Karen Batra, predicted, "It will be many, many years" before the technology becomes mainstream.

She further predicted that its adoption would not be accompanied by a hike in prices. "There comes a point where consumers will find another form of meat," she said.






Is cloned meat safe?



Overview...Soon, the food you put on your dinner table may be from cloned animals and chances are, you won't even know it. The Food and Drug Administration announced in January 2008 that's it OK to sell meat and milk from cloned cattle, pigs and goats. What does this mean to the consumer? Is cloned meat safe? How does it differ from regular animal products?
Questions and answers

Why is it going to be difficult to tell if you're buying cloned products?

Dr. Sanjay Gupta, CNN chief medical correspondent: Because they won't be labeled. Meat from cloned animals looks just like meat from traditionally bred animals. If it's prepared the same way and sold without labels, the average consumer will have no idea he or she is eating cloned meat.

Even though the FDA has deemed cloned foods safe, a lot of people still question the ethics of cloning animals as well as the safety issue. When the FDA held focus groups, one-third of those asked said they wanted nothing to do with cloned products. Without FDA labels, it's going to be nearly impossible to tell whether you are buying cloned products.

Why aren't they requiring the products to be labeled? And what can consumers do if they don't want cloned food?

Gupta: FDA and officials from the USDA said in January that it was not up to them to require labeling -- it was only for them to decide, scientifically, if cloned food was safe. They have based their decisions on data from a National Academy of Sciences study done in 2002, as well as from a peer-reviewed group of independent scientific experts on cloning that found the FDA's methods to evaluate the data were adequate. The FDA said that since it found cloned products to be safe, there is no reason to label them differently. Agency officials said if companies with products from non-cloned animals want to label them as such, they can. But that gets expensive. When asked what consumers should do if they are hesitant to buy meat and milk after cloned products enter the marketplace, the USDA said people can buy organic. But organic food costs more money as well.

It may look the same, but does it taste any different?

Gupta: The FDA has put a voluntary moratorium on the market, asking farmers who raise cloned animals not to sell cloned products. So there isn't much cloned meat or milk out there right now. Last year the Los Angeles Times got hold of some cloned beef and had a local chef cook it up into steaks and burgers and asked scientists and food experts to taste it. We spoke to two of those tasters, Dr. Barry Glassner from the University of Southern California and Greg Jaffe of the Center for Science in the Public Interest, and both said there was very little difference.
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Jaffe found the meat to be fine, a little tough, because it had been frozen. But he said taste, texture and color were the same as regular meat. Glassner liked the taste very much. He said it tasted great, exactly like regular beef. During the taste test, they didn't know which was which when they were tasting it.

When might cloned food be on the market?

Gupta: These products will come from offspring of cloned animals, and there are about 600 cloned breeding animals in this country, so it will take time to breed them and get the food out to consumers. Neither federal agency would commit to a timetable, but it will be a couple of years before cloned food appears on our grocery store shelves